15 comments

  • wslh 22 hours ago
  • bradhe 43 minutes ago
    When you're successful and rich (enough, at least), this is a nice whimsical thing to say. When you're suffering in the trenches, this isn't very helpful.
    • julienmarie 13 minutes ago
      On the contrary, read the piece. He's not saying it from comfort, he's saying it after a heart attack, after his kids grew up, after the form he loved became a young man's game. The farce isn't a punchline delivered from above; it's what's left when the registers that used to hold you don't anymore. And his answer isn't despair, it's "we've got to keep trying… there's a breeze beneath my wings." That's not whimsy. That's the thing the trenches actually teach you, if you survive them.
    • lukewarm707 1 minute ago
      but is he justified, right or wrong?

      is what is right/wrong important? that already requires thinking.

      so, we are really choosing whether to use heuristics or seek to justify our choices.

    • reedf1 14 minutes ago
      I'm not sure what you are trying to express here. Is it "rich people shouldn't express their worldview" or "the idea that life is inherently meaningless is incorrect"? A younger me ingested this sentiment as a call to action to create the meaning I wanted in the world.
    • CTOSian 21 minutes ago
      oh yes, it becomes like this s/farce/curse
    • sph 25 minutes ago
      Your comment is exactly what successful and rich people say. You can find a lot of joy and acceptance among the poorest of people: the mind is remarkably adaptable, yet it's only those that always strive for more that cannot enjoy life's little moments.

      I truly dislike this recent trend of making people feel bad if they have learned to just slow down and be content with life. "It's privilege being able to take a break and smell the roses, I'm too busy for this nonsense" is protestant crab mentality that I find revolting.

      • smugglerFlynn 1 minute ago
        Exactly! What a high-profile actor’s life represents to an accountant or a programmer, that accountant’s or programmer’s life similarly represents to a factory worker, and so on.

        I've met "too busy for this" people in every line of work, regardless of their pay band. When you get to know people, you will see that pretty much everyone has their own trenches, and slowing down is a matter of priorities, not privilege.

      • tipiirai 14 minutes ago
        I think you misinterpreted. The comment said "When you're suffering...", not "When you're poor..."
        • sph 12 minutes ago
          "Desire is the root of all suffering" — Buddha

          You'll have a hard time finding more suffering than in Wall Street. Meanwhile I haven't found more content, relaxed people than when I visited my distant family in sub-Saharan Africa, taking life as it comes. My point still stands.

          • thesamethrowawa 4 minutes ago
            > Meanwhile I haven't found more content, relaxed people than when I visited my distant family in sub-Saharan Africa, taking life as it comes. My point still stands.

            You seem to be arguing against the point "only happy people can be rich". This isn't what the GP comment said. It said only rich people come out with things like "life is a farce". Which I think is true. Are any of your sub saharan african relatives giving interviews to press pontificating on such things? I assume no.

    • bell-cot 27 minutes ago
      Yeah - but it may be a good way to articulate a bleak, from-the-trenches perspective on the world.
    • lo_zamoyski 5 minutes ago
      Strictly speaking, meaninglessness is opposed to farce. You can’t have both utter meaninglessness and farce, because meaning is intrinsic to farce.

      Comedy presupposes meaning, because comedy hinges on the absurd, but the absurd is a departure from meaning or a deviation from it. Something is absurd when it fails to be meaningful and fails to satisfy the rational in the broader context of rational meaning.

      There is no laughter in the utterly meaningless. There cannot be silliness without an overarching context of seriousness.

  • styluss 1 hour ago
    > The world is like a ride in an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question: "Is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say: "Hey, don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride."

    Richard Hicks

  • prngl 38 minutes ago
    This was an interesting interview. Like a lot of great comedians, Odenkirk has a very grounded and bleak view of the world. I suppose a lot of art, comedy included, is a way of coping with their perspective, for themselves and for the audience.
  • nozzlegear 19 hours ago
    When the zeitgeist is overwhelmingly nihilist, dare to be an absurdist.
  • AntiUSAbah 39 minutes ago
    The thing is, if you never question anything, just lifing is worth it in itself.

    If you do think too much about everything, and you survive this, you will land somewhere and this somewhere will be content.

    I'm thinking about happiness and what I want for so long, that I now have crossed my half life point.

    You also need to have a certain amount of freedom to even have this problem which makes it weird for others not having this. Oh you are not happy? But you have money?! I would be happy with money, i'm struggling.

    Its weird if you sometimes think it would be interesting to struggle.

  • anshumankmr 1 hour ago
  • alexose 1 hour ago
    I liked the shoutout to On Cinema at the Cinema. Truly one of the most hilarious and fascinating pieces of comedy in the last couple of decades.
  • rkunal 14 minutes ago
    Yet he found meaning in reminding
  • fiftyacorn 36 minutes ago
    American or British farce?
  • saberience 23 minutes ago
    This is the kind of thought that only rich and successful people can have.

    If you're working every day in a coal mine so you can feed your children otherwise they will go hungry, then you don't have these kind of thoughts.

    Similarly, if you're fighting in a war so your family isn't raped or murdered then you don't have these kind of thoughts either.

    Basically, you're lucky if you live in a situation that gives you the leisure and time to sit around and think about life being a farce. Probably he should be sitting around thinking, "boy, i'm so lucky I get to sit in this nice coffeeshop with no reason to work, no threat to my life, just chilling, so I can ponder on what a farce life is"

    • sph 14 minutes ago
      Already ranted about comments like yours: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47919820

      It's shows true ignorance about what happiness is and where it's found. You can probably find more smiles and hope for the future in the Ukrainian trenches than reading comments from Silicon Valley workers making $150k a year.

      I mean, do you guys even know Buddhism any more? It was such a hip thing in the 70s over there.

    • pillefitz 13 minutes ago
      So you're saying that life isn't a farce? Or that it is, and poor people don't ponder it? Just expressing disapproval of rich people?
      • lukewarm707 7 minutes ago
        the only thesis/proposition i see in the comment would be:

        "poor people don't think about it"

        no other claims

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  • echelon_musk 1 hour ago
    That's the only explanation that could justify how terrible Better Call Saul turned out.
    • guilamu 1 hour ago
      Most people, including me, beg to disagree. Better Call Saul was a masterpiece.

      https://www.metacritic.com/tv/better-call-saul/

    • AntiUSAbah 38 minutes ago
      Is this some kind of ragebait?

      Cinemagraphicly wonderful, storyline? awesome. Characters and Character development? great

    • forinti 1 hour ago
      I really enjoyed Better Call Saul and thought it was much much better than Breaking Bad. Walter White was such an irritating character. Saul was a brilliant hustler.
    • wg0 45 minutes ago
      I have watched it several times. Every time it hits different. It surely is a masterpiece.
    • strogonoff 47 minutes ago
      I couldn’t make it through Breaking Bad, but I couldn’t put down Better Call Saul. Different boats for different floats.
      • sd9 18 minutes ago
        How far through did you get? I think it gets significantly better in season 2, and continues improving thereafter. Basically after they starting bringing in bigger overarching storylines.

        I made a few false starts where I couldn’t really get through season 1, but after I persisted it was worth it.

    • pawelduda 26 minutes ago
      I'm curious what makes you say that
    • Capricorn2481 51 minutes ago
      I respect you shitting on something that is nearly perfect. Your hatred is pure and that makes it special.
    • dnnddidiej 1 hour ago
      Terrible? Nah it was good. Really slow in places tho.